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| Автор: | gerard94 [ Вторник, 10 Сентябрь, 2013 04:48 ] |
| Заголовок сообщения: | New French member |
Hello, My name is Gérard Meunier. I'm a rather old user of BlackBox, and very interested in a Linux version, since it's my OS now. Wine is a rather good solution, but far from perfect. Is there a decent native version of BB on Linux today? I tried this one: https://svn.oberoncore.ru/community/old/BlackBox-Linux/ but couldn't make it work. My Linux version is Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64bits. Regards. Gérard |
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| Автор: | Борис Рюмшин [ Вторник, 10 Сентябрь, 2013 11:24 ] |
| Заголовок сообщения: | Re: New French member |
Hello, Gérard. Now, really working version of BlackBox for Linux not exists. We use BlackBox on Wine under Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit for all our projects. |
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| Автор: | Евгений Темиргалеев [ Вторник, 10 Сентябрь, 2013 11:32 ] |
| Заголовок сообщения: | Re: New French member |
gerard94 писал(а): I think, what this can comment dmitrys only. Код: r301 | OborotovSA | 2009-04-27 21:01:43 +0400 (Пнд, 27 Апр 2009) | 1 line See r300 | OborotovSA | 2009-04-26 19:47:31 +0400 (Вск, 26 Апр 2009) | 1 line r299 | OborotovSA | 2009-04-25 16:42:20 +0400 (Сбт, 25 Апр 2009) | 1 line r298 | dmitrys | 2009-04-22 11:45:35 +0400 (Срд, 22 Апр 2009) | 1 line r297 | dmitrys | 2009-04-22 10:58:16 +0400 (Срд, 22 Апр 2009) | 2 lines r296 | dmitrys | 2009-04-22 10:48:51 +0400 (Срд, 22 Апр 2009) | 5 lines r295 | dmitrys | 2009-04-22 10:45:32 +0400 (Срд, 22 Апр 2009) | 5 lines r286 | dmitrys | 2009-01-30 16:38:34 +0300 (Птн, 30 Янв 2009) | 1 line r285 | dmitrys | 2009-01-30 16:22:50 +0300 (Птн, 30 Янв 2009) | 1 line r283 | dmitrys | 2009-01-15 17:55:04 +0300 (Чтв, 15 Янв 2009) | 1 line r277 | rbv | 2009-01-08 20:13:45 +0300 (Чтв, 08 Янв 2009) | 1 line r276 | OborotovSA | 2009-01-07 11:17:16 +0300 (Срд, 07 Янв 2009) | 1 line r275 | OborotovSA | 2009-01-07 10:29:58 +0300 (Срд, 07 Янв 2009) | 1 line r273 | rbv | 2009-01-06 00:13:10 +0300 (Втр, 06 Янв 2009) | 1 line Код: svn log -v https://svn.oberoncore.ru/community/old/BlackBox-Linux/ for details.
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| Автор: | Евгений Темиргалеев [ Вторник, 10 Сентябрь, 2013 11:40 ] |
| Заголовок сообщения: | Re: New French member |
Борис Рюмшин писал(а): We use BlackBox on Wine under Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit for all our projects. We use console linux version also. See http://oberoncore.ru/projects/bb16lin-console, see also viewtopic.php?f=34&t=1159 for details.
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| Автор: | gerard94 [ Среда, 11 Сентябрь, 2013 00:37 ] |
| Заголовок сообщения: | Re: New French member |
Thanks Borix and Eugene for your answers, There is a lot to read and understand. It's very exciting, but a little frustrating, since I don't know Russian. There are automatic translators on Internet, fortunately, but their translations are somehow... automatic. Do you think that this situation could evolve? I installed console linux on my Ubuntu computer with the deb installer. The installer worked fine, but when I tried and ran the console, I got: gerard@Hermes:~$ BlackBox failed to install signal 32 failed to install signal 33 **** * Error 01 * Init: code file not found **** I read viewtopic.php?f=34&t=4118, but I don't think they give a solution. Am I missing something? I'm a Linux user, and, even if I programmed a lot under BB, I'm not a Linux programmer. Nevertheless, I'd like to help this project. What can I do? Gérard |
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| Автор: | Евгений Темиргалеев [ Среда, 11 Сентябрь, 2013 12:11 ] |
| Заголовок сообщения: | Re: New French member |
gerard94 писал(а): gerard@Hermes:~$ BlackBox No..... **** * Error 01 * Init: code file not found **** I read viewtopic.php?f=34&t=4118, but I don't think they give a solution. Am I missing something? It seems to me that you can found the explanation in Dev/Docu/ElfLinker-Link & Lin/Docu/P-S-I (http://oberoncore.ru/_media/projects/bb16lin-console.7z --- now these docs in source archive only). |
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| Автор: | Евгений Темиргалеев [ Среда, 11 Сентябрь, 2013 13:43 ] |
| Заголовок сообщения: | Re: New French member |
gerard94 писал(а): There is a lot to read and understand. It's very exciting, but a little frustrating, since I don't know Russian. There are automatic translators on Internet, fortunately, but their translations are somehow... automatic. Do you think that this situation could evolve? High-quality translation requires a lot of time even for professionals. As for me, I have no nor qualification nor time at the current moment. The Translab helps us with consultations & sometimes with translations, but we can't request help in such size. So, I think what the volunteers which is able to translate from Russian to English can evolve it...Is anyone here who can help? |
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| Автор: | Роман М. [ Среда, 11 Сентябрь, 2013 15:15 ] |
| Заголовок сообщения: | Re: New French member |
gerard94 писал(а): Thanks Borix and Eugene for your answers, Gérard,There is a lot to read and understand. It's very exciting, but a little frustrating, since I don't know Russian. There are automatic translators on Internet, fortunately, but their translations are somehow... automatic. Do you think that this situation could evolve? according to my day-to-day experience in using Google Translator for French documentation last year, I recommend you to prefer translation of Russian->English over Russian->French due to weak Russian-French translation. So I personally prefer to translate by Google Translator from French to English. In this way I don't loose too much meaning of connection between words. Worst of that, in addition to machine translation issues, Russian-speaking people use a lot of jargon, both in day-to-day activity in internet especially in IT domain. For example, Russian jargon-word "хэндлить" (spoken as "handlit`") is taken from English word "to handle". "Затюнить" - from word English "tune" Unfortunately, there are lot of examples in same manner. One of possible (probably inexisting) solutions for machine translation from Russian is pre-translation phase, targeted for "normalization" of text before machine translation. |
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| Автор: | Евгений Темиргалеев [ Среда, 11 Сентябрь, 2013 15:32 ] |
| Заголовок сообщения: | Re: New French member |
Thanks for this information, Roman. May be you also know someone who can help us to translate? |
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| Автор: | gerard94 [ Среда, 11 Сентябрь, 2013 15:45 ] |
| Заголовок сообщения: | Re: New French member |
Thanks for your advice, Roman. It's somewhat logic that Google translates best to English. For the jargon, as I can read cyrillic (but not understand it), I'll try to hear the English technical words inside. Gérard |
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| Автор: | nail_kh [ Суббота, 05 Октябрь, 2013 03:36 ] |
| Заголовок сообщения: | Re: New French member |
Евгений Темиргалеев писал(а): Thanks for this information, Roman. May be you also know someone who can help us to translate? I can help to translate from Russian to English. Russian sleng is not a problem for me. |
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| Автор: | nail_kh [ Суббота, 05 Октябрь, 2013 03:46 ] |
| Заголовок сообщения: | Re: New French member |
nail_kh писал(а): Russian sleng is not a problem for me. Sorry, typo... "... slang..." |
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